VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

Olsens.M · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
I think the problem would not be exactly Tremolo fucking HOTs for money (although I don´t think Sage would be OK with that), but Tremolo knowing first hand (not only having suspicions) about Quinn using the HOTs as a coverture for her dirty business, and not telling her.

Sage is the president of the HOTs, and, if there is some kind of scandal related with the HOTs, she´s going to be responsible of that, even if she was in the dark about it. Something that Sage hates, we already know, is dishonesty. One of the main things that make Sage be fond of Tremolo is that Tremolo always sticks her side and doesn´t lie or hide things from her. If Tremolo was maintaining Sage blind about the things that are happening inside her own fraternity because he was involved in it (even if just as a client), I think is going to be a deal breaker for Sage.

That just bring us to one conclusion. She should be more aware of her surroundings. MC can't do all the job for her. It is the same thing with Maya. People always has to be there to solve her problems. The only way MC will know exactly about Quinn selling the girls is if he uses the service. If he doesn't he will only have an idea but no proof. With that being said, he could never tell it to Sage if he didn't use her services. And Since he uses or have used at least once, He should be given the chance to tell her about it, specially when he stays with her at HOTs and talks to her about Quinn in her room on EP 4. So if DPC didn't give us the option to tell her about it is because he may or may not use it in the future.
If you pay attention, There is a part on ep3 that MC can choose in tell Maya about Quinn's operation, but even then he is not clear about what exactly Quinn does to the girls. He only tells her to be careful. If he wanted to be honest or talk about it, he would tell her that Quinn has an escort service and that is probably how they pay for their tuition, but he doesn't really tell her what Quinn does.

felicemastronzo · Dec 19, 2021

dalli_x said:
The game within the game.

Isabella Icequeen's shield thaws. When Sage finds out what her dad is doing in secret, what's going on at the HOT's and the MC fucked her mom, Being a DIK has a new Icequeen.

Mc with Sage may make the situation worse, but the problems he will have to face are real and quite complicated.

Sage could really lose everything, and her drama started with the loss of what she thought was the love of her life, which at the end of the road will be nothing...

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
But we haven't had a chance to talk about it yet. Neither in the way of the Chiсk and neither in the way of the Dik. The main character did not touch on this topic at all. I think if Sage finds Mona, she'll know everything.

Yeah, that´s one of the weird things about that subplot. Tremolo acts as if nothing would be happening.
It makes sense if he´s a "client" of the restaurant. He keeps the secret, for his own good. If not a client, my interpretation is that he can´t say something clear to Sage because he doesn´t have actually any evidence, only suspicions.

I think that at some point, Sage is going to know that Quinn is making a whorehouse of the fraternity, and Sage is going to go ballistic about that, being the president of the HOTs and responsible of the fraternity and all. Sage is going to confront Trmeolo about it, and there will be a HUGE difference between being a client or not. If Tremolo is not a client, he can say to Sage "I had my suspicions, but I have never told you because it was only that, suspicions, and I didn´t want to spoil your friendship with Quinn without evidences" and Sage will be OK with that. If Tremolo is a client... what is he going to tell Sage? Probably it doesn´t matter: Sage will consider him a traitor and despise him anyway.

felicemastronzo · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
Yeah, that´s one of the weird things about that subplot. Tremolo acts as if nothing would be happening.
It makes sense if he´s a "client" of the restaurant. He keeps the secret, for his own good. If not a client, my interpretation is that he can´t say something clear to Sage because he doesn´t have actually any evidence, only suspicions.

I think that at some point, Sage is going to know that Quinn is making a whorehouse of the fraternity, and Sage is going to go ballistic about that, being the president of the HOTs and responsible of the fraternity and all. Sage is going to confront Trmeolo about it, and there will be a HUGE difference between being a client or not. If Tremolo is not a client, he can say to Sage "I had my suspicions, but I have never told you because it was only that, suspicions, and I didn´t want to spoil your friendship with Quinn without evidences" and Sage will be OK with that. If Tremolo is a client... what is he going to tell Sage? Probably it doesn´t matter: Sage will consider him a traitor and despise him anyway.

but even if he is a customer of the restaurant, he should at least have some sense of guilt, instead he simply pretends not to do anything.

with MC we can know what he's thinking, the complete silence about Quinn (of course especially if he's not in a relationship with her) is deafening.

dalli_x · Dec 19, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
Bro you are going too technical into it. She can do it and stop doing it before even get caught. So there is no reason to go all technical into the trafficking offense matter. We already know it is not legal, the thing is, we don't know what happens from now on in the game. Only DPC can tell. She may stop doing it, she may continue doing it and never get caught. She may get caught and strike a deal to deliver big figures of trafficking and the ones responsible inside the college to the police and go free into witness protection. We don't know. Only I gave 3-4 different outcomes to the story of what can happen in her current situation. Many more can happen. She can die. She can sell and get rich and go live in a parasidiac island. lol. So lets not get so technical into this specific matter.

MarkOlsen is infected by dalli_x. He starts to theorize uand speculate. I think this is great. Keep it up.

Olsens.M · Dec 19, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
It's not as bad as you think. I think Sage will easily accept the fact that MС fucked other girls for money. Besides, she knows how popular MC is and girls like that Riо and Camilla don't charge him for sex, lol. Having an affair with Jade and with Quinn is definitely a problem, but I think if we go in Sage's way there will be a chance to tell her the truth. And yes, it's unlikely that all the shit will fall on Sage right away, DPC will serve the drama gradually, dosed. If you remember Maya, then the drama with her father also fell unexpectedly, but now the drama with her father has faded into the background.

But Sage already knows Quinn has a thing for mc, or at least suspect, and when she asks if he likes her on Ep4, at least my MC tells her the truth (yes). and even knowing that she wants to fuck him lol. And later on EP 8, knowing that Quinn has a thing for MC and MC told her he likes Quinn, she has a 3some with both. She can't see an affair of MC and Quinn as a problem. Lets take in account that she is a cheater. She has fucked and kissed MC being in a relationship with Chad. So she isn't trustworthy either. She could have broken up with Chad and fuck whoever she wanted, but she kept her relationship and was fucking with tremolo. So why she would bitch about he fucking other girls, including Quinn. The only one she could possibly bich about is he having an affair with Jade, but she never told him that Jade was her mother and had no way she'd know that untill the end up EP 8. You guys are talking about Sage like if she is perfect and only tremolo is fucking things up. He is doing what any young man would do. Having his fun at the college. You guys are too judgy lol. He is a young boy at the college, he has to explore and experience things. So far he doesn't owe Sage anything. They are only fuck buddies. Your decisions will only matter from the moment you both decide to give the relationship a go.

PashafromRussia · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
Yeah, that´s one of the weird things about that subplot. Tremolo acts as if nothing would be happening.
It makes sense if he´s a "client" of the restaurant. He keeps the secret, for his own good. If not a client, my interpretation is that he can´t say something clear to Sage because he doesn´t have actually any evidence, only suspicions.

I think that at some point, Sage is going to know that Quinn is making a whorehouse of the fraternity, and Sage is going to go ballistic about that, being the president of the HOTs and responsible of the fraternity and all. Sage is going to confront Trmeolo about it, and there will be a HUGE difference between being a client or not. If Tremolo is not a client, he can say to Sage "I had my suspicions, but I have never told you because it was only that, suspicions, and I didn´t want to spoil your friendship with Quinn without evidences" and Sage will be OK with that. If Tremolo is a client... what is he going to tell Sage? Probably it doesn´t matter: Sage will consider him a traitor and despise him anyway.

Well, MС can answer something like: "Yes, I fucked them and paid them for money. But at least they didn't have to fuck with old people." Although I don't know how much this explanation will suit Sage. But I don't think the restaurant will play any key role. Because otherwise the whole Dik way with outside girls doesn't make sense at all. Why would we go the way of Dik if Sage would break up with Tremolo anyway? It seems to me that there will be several small choices on Sage's path that will affect him in the future. In Chapter 8, we could have told the truth about Chad, or we could have kept silent. In chapter 9, perhaps we will tell Sage that we fucked Jade. She'll get angry, but eventually she'll forgive. That's how I see it.

Olsens.M · Dec 19, 2021

dalli_x said:
MarkOlsen is infected by dalli_x. He starts to theorize uand speculate. I think this is great. Keep it up.

well you made me think about outcomes because most of comments here are putting my LI in jail lol.

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
That just bring us to one conclusion. She should be more aware of her surroundings. MC can't do all the job for her. It is the same thing with Maya. People always has to be there to solve her problems. The only way MC will know exactly about Quinn selling the girls is if he uses the service. If he doesn't he will only have an idea but no proof. With that being said, he could never tell it to Sage if he didn't use her services. And Since he uses or have used at least once, He should be given the chance to tell her about it, specially when he stays with her at HOTs and talks to her about Quinn in her room on EP 4. So if DPC didn't give us the option to tell her about it is because he may or may not use it in the future.
If you pay attention, There is a part on ep3 that MC can choose in tell Maya about Quinn's operation, but even then he is not clear about what exactly Quinn does to the girls. He only tells her to be careful. If he wanted to be honest or talk about it, he would tell her that Quinn has an escort service and that is probably how they pay for their tuition, but he doesn't really tell her what Quinn does.

Sage hasn´t been the best president of the HOTs, right?

I suppose that the idea of DPC is that Sage has been so obsessed with her awful relationship with Chad and so busy following him around with a pair of binoculars that has left aside most of the business of the HOTs in Quinn´s hands, and we know what Quinn has made with that responsibility.

Now, Sage don´t need to worry about Chad any more, has a calmer state of mind, and has started to take the reins of the HOTs again. So probably, at some point is going to see that weird things are being happening into her fraternity. Probably the first big "eye opener" is going to be Mona. If she is able to talk with her, she´s going to know, or at least start to know that Quinn has been a lousy friend and a disloyal vice president. It will depend of the previous behavior of Tremolo if he´s able to save his relationship with Sage or is going to be a shitstorm for him.

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
Well, MС can answer something like: "Yes, I fucked them and paid them for money. But at least they didn't have to fuck with old people." Although I don't know how much this explanation will suit Sage. But I don't think the restaurant will play any key role. Because otherwise the whole Dik way with outside girls doesn't make sense at all. Why would we go the way of Dik if Sage would break up with Tremolo anyway? It seems to me that there will be several small choices on Sage's path that will affect him in the future. In Chapter 8, we could have told the truth about Chad, or we could have kept silent. In chapter 9, perhaps we will tell Sage that we fucked Jade. She'll get angry, but eventually she'll forgive. That's how I see it.

I think that DIK Tremolo that is client of the restaurant simply doesn´t have any future with Sage. Maybe with Quinn or Lily, but no Sage. DIK Tremolo that is not client of the restaurant has future with Sage... if didn´t fall into the others booby traps that DPC set in his path, of course. But being a client of Quinn is going to be a deal breaker, with Sage, the same way fucking Bella will be a deal breaker with Jill for CHIK Tremolo.

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

MarkOlsen said:
The only one she could possibly bich about is he having an affair with Jade, but she never told him that Jade was her mother and had no way she'd know that untill the end up EP 8. You guys are talking about Sage like if she is perfect and only tremolo is fucking things up. He is doing what any young man would do. Having his fun at the college. You guys are too judgy lol. He is a young boy at the college, he has to explore and experience things. So far he doesn't owe Sage anything. They are only fuck buddies. Your decisions will only matter from the moment you both decide to give the relationship a go.

I think that Sage says at some point something like "don´t try to be logical with me when I´m angry". Sage is going to be really angry when she knows that Tremolo has been fucking with her mom (If Tremolo did that, of course), and I don´t think she´s going to be open to reasoning. IF... there is any good reasoning.

Imagine that situation in real life: a girl that suddenly knows that half of her closest friends are hookers, that her father has been fucking them in exchange of money, and ruined the life of the only one that didn´t want to fuck with her. AND, on the top of the cake... her boyfriend has a secret affair with her married mom... How could someone rationally process something like that?

Poor Sage. Her cute head is going to explode

Razrback16 · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
I think that Sage says at some point something like "don´t try to be logical with me when I´m angry". Sage is going to be really angry when she knows that Tremolo has been fucking with her mom (If Tremolo did that, of course), and I don´t think she´s going to be open to reasoning. IF... there is any good reasoning.

Imagine that situation in real life: a girl that suddenly knows that half of her closest friends are hookers, that her father has been fucking them in exchange of money, and ruined the life of the only one that didn´t want to fuck with her. AND, on the top of the cake... her boyfriend has a secret affair with her married mom... How could someone rationally process something like that?

Poor Sage. Her cute head is going to explode

Hah, boy no doubt. When I got to the end of the latest chapter I was like man...I feel bad for people on Sage's path, holy hell that's gonna be crazy.

jamwor88 · Dec 19, 2021

aragh said:
Yeah, should be called "special takeout" or something like this. Winning or losing the shot battle shouldn't matter. Did you use a mod?

nope, just played the game normally, I have no idea why it doesn‘t work

PashafromRussia · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
I think that DIK Tremolo that is client of the restaurant simply doesn´t have any future with Sage. Maybe with Quinn or Lily, but no Sage. DIK Tremolo that is not client of the restaurant has future with Sage... if didn´t fall into the others booby traps that DPC set in his path, of course. But being a client of Quinn is going to be a deal breaker, with Sage, the same way fucking Bella will be a deal breaker with Jill for CHIK Tremolo.

I am more than sure that this will not happen. I agree with the opinion that the choices made during the relationship, and not before, will matter.
He didn't know Jade was Sage's mother. She never told him that she was an adopted daughter.
He helped the girls earn money.
Lol, if Sage really breaks up with Tremolo because he used the services of a brothel, then this will be my biggest disappointment. Then she will have to break up with her other future guys who clearly fucked whores for money. I'm just imagining this scene:
Sage: MC, you fucked my friends for money!
MC: And what? I wasn't in a relationship and I wanted to fuck.
Sage: they were my friends!
MC: I didn't even know you then, lol. How did I know they were your friends?
Sage: I'm leaving you! You're a traitor!
MC: Fuck you, bitch. Maybe you'll break up with me because I jerked off until you?

KristopheH · Dec 19, 2021

jamwor88 said:
why can‘t I go find sarah after winning the drinking game at the diks party? I also accepted quinns offer

jamwor88 said:
why can‘t I go find sarah after winning the drinking game at the diks party? I also accepted quinns offer but it still says „requires offer“

Are you playing on Android? DPC doesn't like Android users, so several scenes (including that one) have been hard coded to be unavailable to Android users. There's probably a patch on the OP.

J.A.L. · Dec 19, 2021

PashafromRussia said:
I am more than sure that this will not happen. I agree with the opinion that the choices made during the relationship, and not before, will matter.
He didn't know Jade was Sage's mother. She never told him that she was an adopted daughter.
He helped the girls earn money.
Lol, if Sage really breaks up with Tremolo because he used the services of a brothel, then this will be my biggest disappointment. Then she will have to break up with her other future guys who clearly fucked whores for money. I'm just imagining this scene:
Sage: MC, you fucked my friends for money!
MC: And what? I wasn't in a relationship and I wanted to fuck.
Sage: they were my friends!
MC: I didn't even know you then, lol. How did I know they were your friends?
Sage: I'm leaving you! You're a traitor!
MC: Fuck you, bitch. Maybe you'll break up with me because I jerked off until you?

No. I already said in my previous comments where the problem would be.
The scene would be:
- Sage: Tremolo, you fucked my friends for money!
- Tremolo: And what? I wasn´t in a relationship and wanted to fuck
- Sage: And what? That you did know that Quinn was making the HOTs a whorehouse, and you didn´t tell me. We were friends. You have had MONTHS to tell me what was happening with my sorority and you had me in the dark because you were benefiting from the situation. You are not best that my own father. You´re a traitor like him. I will never trust in you again. Get out of my face!
- Tremolo: But... But...

DavDR · Dec 19, 2021

felicemastronzo said:
but even if he is a customer of the restaurant, he should at least have some sense of guilt, instead he simply pretends not to do anything.

with MC we can know what he's thinking, the complete silence about Quinn (of course especially if he's not in a relationship with her) is deafening.

This is one of the most annoying things in the way the game is written. It's obvious in several places that DPC doesn't want the player to know certain things or doesn't want the player communicating what they know to another character because it will undermine the plot or because there's a 'Shocking Reveal'. Personally I wish he'd just give up on these SR's in his writing, especially as most of the players have already figured out the SR long before it's sprung.

Afapp · Dec 19, 2021

sixart said:
Pretty please by all means go on ! It's been quite the time since I last saw/read " flog the dolphin "

I tried to but got deleted for being off topic. I had some good ones!

PashafromRussia · Dec 19, 2021

J.A.L. said:
No. I already said in my previous comments where the problem would be.
The scene would be:
- Sage: Tremolo, you fucked my friends for money!
- Tremolo: And what? I wasn´t in a relationship and wanted to fuck
- Sage: And what? That you did know that Quinn was making the HOTs a whorehouse, and you didn´t tell me. We were friends. You have had MONTHS to tell me what was happening with my sorority and you had me in the dark because you were benefiting from the situation. You are not best that my own father. You´re a traitor like him. I will never trust in you again. Get out of my face!
- Tremolo: But... But...

I would never believe Sage would say that. It looks very strained and implausible. I could believe it if Jill or Maya said that, but not Sage. She's not that touchy.Of course, she can say something like "I need to think about everything" or "I don't want to see anyone," but this will not mean that they will break up. Because if Sage takes everything so personally, she'll have to drop out of college altogether, lol.

Afapp · Dec 19, 2021

Who is Troy's new roomate? could it be Bert?

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